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Mar
25
2010

Continuing GFE Questions and Answers

To add to the questions from February’s webinar, we received many excellent and challenging questions during our March webinar “Continuing to Make Sense of the New GFE: A More in Depth Look.” As promised, below you will find answers to all 32 of the questions asked. The answers come from our best available resources, and we will all continue to learn more as HUD posts new information. Reviewing findings from your quality control audits is also a good way to learn how to meet RESPA requirements.

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Question 1 – On the 2010 GFE – if a borrower gave an incorrect house number on a purchase, do we need to re-disclose as a changed circumstance?

  • Answer - Assuming fees will remain the same, you should be fine to update your disclosures with the correct address.  If you were attempting to increase fees and trying to use the change in house # as a documented changed circumstance, the change in house number alone would not constitute a changed circumstance allowing the increase in fees.  If the legal address of the property changes, however,  this may constitute a changed circumstance and we recommend contacting your lender to determine their procedure.

Question 2 – Can a separate line item be added for lock extension fee?

  • Answer - Additional lines may only be added to Blocks 3, 6, 11 of the GFE.

Question 3 – Borrower is in the process of purchase loan and decided to purchase a different home – Is this a changed circumstance or new transaction and start with new application and RESPA?

  • Answer - A change in properties can be viewed to fit into the following definitions of allowable changed circumstance (1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s pg. 15 #1):  A, 2) information particular to the borrower or transaction that was relied on in providing the GFE and that changes, or is found to be inaccurate after the GFE has been provided and 3) New information particular to the borrower or transaction that was not relied on in providing the GFE.  Change in legal address also constitutes a changed circumstance.  The originator is still bound by the dates of the initial GFE, however, we suggest contacting your lender to determine what is acceptable to them.

Question 4 - How do you disclose the loan origination is a % and not a flat fee so if the loan increases our origination could increase?

  • Answer - We recommend contacting your lender or LOS provider for recommendations on this type of fee disclosure.   The lender/investor may have procedures used to determine a specific fee (such as an origination fee), has been disclosed as a percentage rather than a dollar amount, thus allowing the percentage to increase with the loan amount.

Question 5 - What is your understanding of the Intent to Proceed form? Is it needed prior to processing the loan?

  • Answer – The letter of intent to proceeds verifies the borrower’s interest to move forward with the loan within the 10 business days as disclosed on the Important Dates Section page 1 of the GFE.  Without a signature line available as part of the 2010 GFE, the Intent to Proceed document may be used to verify the GFE was provided within 3 business days of application.

Question 6 – What about removal of an applicant from the application? Is that a changed circumstance?

  • Answer - This may be considered a changed circumstance due to the following:  borrower requested change, information relied on when initially disclosing the GFE has changed, or found to be inaccurate (such as credit quality), or New information  particular to the borrower or transaction that was not relied on in providing the GFE was discovered.

Question 7 – Should we do another 1003 when the borrower finds the property so the dates will be within the 3 day period?

  • Answer - At the time the application is provided, it is presumed all 6 pieces of information required have been obtained and the initial GFE must be disclosed within 3 days of receiving that information.  Requirements include the following:  borrower’s name, monthly income, SSN, property address, estimate of value of the property and loan amount.   See 1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page6 #4.

Question 8 – Why did you not include the YSP in the total origination charges in the examples?

  • Answer – Charges listed in Block 1 may be itemized on a worksheet (YSP, Origination fee, processing, etc.). The origination charge we used as one figure could encompass both YSP and an origination fee.  Since these fees are ‘lumped’ together into one charge, the fee split can be done any number of ways as long as Our Origination Charge is high enough to allow reduction for the entire credit of any YSP reflected in Block 2.

Question 9 - Please repeat number 3. If unlocked this should read N/A…. Is that correct?

  • Answer – Page 1 Important dates Section; item number 3 will remain N/A when unlocked and will be completed with the appropriate rate lock period, allowing for any rescission period, when the loan is locked.

Question 10 - Hello, our brokers are responsible for redisclosing at the time of our rate lock. How can we confirm that the GFE has been in fact received by the borrowers?

  • Answer - When the GFE is re-issued for rate lock purposes, the Date of the GFE will need to be updated.  For purposes of documenting the disclosure was sent to the borrower, the procedure you typically use (date stamp, email confirmation disclosing a date, etc.) is acceptable.

Question 11 – What if the origination % stays the same yet the loan amount changes, therefore the amount will change?

  • Answer – If a portion of the origination charge is a percentage of the loan amount, and the loan amount increases, that portion of the origination charge disclosed as a percentage of the loan amount may also increase.  A documented changed circumstance permitting the increase must be retained in the file.

Question 12 – Does a change circumstances require a new TIL in addition to the new GFE?

  • Answer – A new TIL must be redisclosed if the APR increases above .125%.  Evidence of redisclosure of the TIL must be retained in the file.

Question 13 – If one lender will not do the loan for some reason, so it has to go to another lender and the new lenders fees are higher, why can’t I reissue?

  • Answer – 1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page 18 #xv indicates a change in lender’s does not constitute a changed circumstance.  One of our panelist’s addressed this issue indicating although the fees may increase from lender to lender, those fees are considered the cost of ‘doing business’ and may not be passed on to the borrower.  This is assuming that the reason for a change in lender is not due to a borrower requested change, change in loan product, etc. which may fall under the category of an acceptable changed circumstance.

Question 14 – As per HUD, YSP should not be added to origination charges.

  • Answer – YSP can be considered as a component of Our Adjusted Origination Charge in Block 1 if the originator wishes to itemize charges, for example, on a worksheet.  The originator may include YSP as part of the origination charge, however, may not retain any portion of the YSP as the entire credit will go towards reducing settlement charges for the borrower.

Question 15 – If block 1 cannot go up or down, what happens when the origination charges are exceeding section 32?

  • Answer – The fees disclosed in Block 1 may decrease at settlement.  Tolerance limitations only apply to increase in charges to the borrower, or decrease in credit to the borrower.

Question 16 ­- The redisclose is only if there is an increase in the origination and not a decrease, correct?

  • Answer – Correct, charges to the borrower may decrease at any time.  A credit to the borrower indicated in Block 2, however, may not decrease without a documented changed circumstance.

Question 17 – If we are a direct lender, funding our own loans, do we need to show YSP?

  • Answer – For transactions without a mortgage broker, the lender may choose not to separately disclose in Block 2 any credit, or charge, for the interest rate chose on the loan.   Box 1 of Block 2 will, however, need to be marked with the chosen interest rate.  See Sec. appendix C to Part 3500- Instruction for Completing the Good Faith Estimate.

Question 18 – Do you know what form in Encompass would work on TBD?

  • Answer – We suggest contacting your LOS support provider for questions specific to its operation.

Question 19 – Delaying the GFE means Section 7 of the 1003 and the GFE won’t agree; advice on how to handle this? (Section 7 is the details of transaction.)

  • Answer – Unsure of what the reason for a delayed GFE disclosure would be?  An originator is required to disclose the GFE no later than 3 business days after receipt of an application, or information sufficient to complete an application (1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page 6 #4).  We have seen several LOS providers advise on ways to input fees to allow an accurate dollar amount disclosure to the borrower and can recommend contacting your provider for support.  You are also welcome to contact us directly to provide more detail in allowing us to answer your question more accurately.

Question 20 – I have several investors who say that if the borrower opts to use a different title company than on the service provider list we are still on the hook for tolerance requirements. Is this correct?

  • Answer – We are unsure as to why your lender would hold these fees to a tolerance limitation.  1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page 13 #3 addresses this question specifically.

Question 21 – So if the appraisal comes in lower and decreases the YSP, the credit in block 2 decreases but the fees in block 1 do not?

  • Answer – That is correct.  The decrease in YSP due to the higher LTV will reduce the credit the borrower has towards settlement charges as reflected in Block 2.

Question 22 – Actually, the issue I’ve encountered is not having a credit bureau because I didn’t yet have an authorization to pull credit; you answered it for me by reaffirming that without all 6 items it’s a huge financial risk providing a GFE.

  • Answer – Happy to hear we were able to be of assistance.

Question 23 – Different investors of mine have tossed out Saturdays as a business day.

  • Answer – (3500.7(c) RESPA defines a business day as follows:  3500.2, business day means a day on which the offices of the business entity are open to the public for carrying on substantially all of the entity’s business functions.   This would allow Saturdays to be counted as a business day.

Question 24 – If there is a time listed in box #1 does that mean the rate is good thorough that time?  Any time after the date and time the rate could change correct?

  • Answer – That is correct.  The quoted interest rate must be made available for the date and time indicated in   item #1 in the Important Dates section located on page 1 of the GFE.

Question 25 – Do we adjust the rate lock period by the rescission time?

  • Answer – Yes, the rate lock period should include any applicable rescission period.

Question 26 – The lender sends out the revised GFE to the borrower…should we be receiving a copy to be retained in our file? The lenders are not wanting to send us copies.

  • Answer – Any re-issued GFE and supporting documentation must be retained in the originator’s file.   HUD FAQ’s page 19, #12 specifically addresses this question:  “If there is a changed circumstance resulting in a revised GFE, loan originators (mortgage brokers and lenders) both must retain documentation of the reasons for providing the revised GFE for no less than 3 years after settlement”.

Question 27 – Does the lender or the broker generate the re-disclosed GFE? Do we need to have the copy of the redisclosure sent and the date to be sure we can charge at closing?

  • Answer – Any re-issued GFE and supporting documentation must be retained in the originator’s file.   HUD FAQ’s page 19, #12 specifically addresses this question:  “If there is a changed circumstance resulting in a revised GFE, loan originators (mortgage brokers and lenders) both must retain documentation of the reasons for providing the revised GFE for no less than 3 years after settlement”.

Question 28 – For a refinance, do we make the rate good thru the closing date or the funding date?

  • Answer – The interest rate and date quoted in the Important Dates Section, once the loan is locked, should be made available through funding, allowing for any applicable rescission.

Question 29 – Lenders don’t use Box 2 under Number 2 at all – correct?

  • Answer – One of the boxes in Block 2 must be marked.  For example, if SRP applies (vs. YSP), box 1of Block 2 should be marked with only the interest rate.  If there is a YSP to the borrower, box 2 will be marked and if there is a charge, or discount, to the borrower for the interest rate chosen, box 3 will be marked.  Only one of the boxes in Block 2 may be marked.

Question 30 – So the YSP credit or charge is to the borrower? For the broker to retain compensation/get paid on YSP, it has to be included in block 1?

  • Answer – That is correct.  Also, the YSP included in Block 1 may not exceed the YSP credit to the borrower in block 2.  100% of YSP will go to the borrower as a credit on the settlement statement.

Question 31 – What if the broker is keeping the YSP? Then do you show YSP in 2 block 1?

  • Answer – 100% of YSP received for a chosen rate will always be shown in Block 2 as a credit to the borrower, reducing settlement charges.   Our Adjusted Origination Charges in Block 1 may contain YSP, however, the YSP included in Block 1 may not exceed the YSP credit in Block 2.

Question 32 - I thought I heard Connie say that the amount of “additional broker compensation” added to the origination and fees in Block 1 could never exceed the amount of the YSP credit to the borrower. I have never heard that before. Do you know where that information came from?

  • Answer – I believe Connie made the following clarification regarding YSP:- If part of Our Origination Charges in Block 1 is comprised of YSP (additional broker compensation) and the YSP increases, the YSP credit may increase in Block 2, however, Block 1 may not increase due to the increased YSP.  By increasing only Block 2, the borrower now can realize the full benefit of the increase in YSP.

ALWAYS check with your lenders and investors if you have any questions specific to your loan scenario. The information provided by Mortgage Compliance Advisors, LLC has been taken from various public resources and does not constitute legal advice.

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16 Responses to “Continuing GFE Questions and Answers”

  1. David Keeling says:

    How do you handle a situation where you initially disclose an appraisal fee to the applicant of $375.00 on the GFE, but later when the file is run through FNMA DU, the loan is eligible for a Property Inspection Waiver resulting in no appraisal but a $75.00 fee charged by FNMA. What impact does this have on the need to redisclose on the GFE and how is it treated on the HUD-1?

  2. admin says:

    The GFE would not be required to be re-disclosed as the fee for the appraisal has decreased. Re-disclosure with a supporting changed circumstance is only required if the fees disclosed increase beyond allowable tolerances. Tolerance applies to aggregate of fees at disclosure and at settlement.

    Hopefully this answers your question–You are also welcome to join our free GFE webinar on Thursday, September 23 at 12:00 pm MDT “Revisiting the GFE: How to Resolve Common Findings.” The webinar will include a Q&A session, and we would be happy to answer any of your additional questions about the GFE. Register for the webinar here.

  3. BARBARA STOUT says:

    Can anyone please tell me: Must the GFE match the details of transaction? I have been stiped for this.

  4. admin says:

    Yes, it is our opinion that the GFE must match the details of transaction.

  5. ALAN PARKER says:

    OUR COMPLIANCE JUST MADE ME “EAT” A CHARGE FOR EXTENDING AN EXPIRING RATE LOCK BECAUSE I DISCLOSED IT AS “RATE LOCK EXTENSION”, RATHER THAN AS DISCOUNT POINTS. ANY OPINION ON THIS?

  6. admin says:

    If it was a borrower requested extension, then it would be an acceptable change of circumstance and you could re-disclose with the increased cost for the extension.

  7. Rita says:

    How does a broker get credit for a rate lock extension where the seller requested the extension, and has agreed to pay for the cost of the extension fee? Does the fee have to be charged the borrower, and then the seller credit the borrower? Is this a valid “Change in circumstance”; and can block 1 increase based on this scenerio?

  8. admin says:

    I would say only the borrower can accept a request from the seller to extend the lock on the borrower’s loan. RESPA does allow change of circumstance for borrower requested items. In my opinion, this would be a borrower requested change and would be an acceptable change in circumstance. The fee would be incurred by the borrower and could be reflected on the HUD as being paid by the seller.

  9. Sherry says:

    Do you ever change the important date #1 on the GFE when you redisclose?
    We thought if it became a HPML we would, but not if it stayed under the 1.50.

  10. admin says:

    You would change the date for question 1 when you offer a new rate and when you lock a rate.

  11. Heather says:

    I am seeking information regarding the proper date to use when calculating the number of days to enter in Important Dates #3 when extending a rate lock. My understanding is that this should be based on the date the initial rate was set and the final lock expiration date. If a rate is locked for 30 days, then extended for 7 days (prior to expiration) and the rate is not changed, would we put 37 days in Important Dates #3? I have seen some info that say it is correct to compound the original lock period and the extension period as shown in my example of 37 days as well as conflicting info that states the date the extension was completed is the new basis for the rate lock period which would require Important Dates #3 to show 7 days.

  12. admin says:

    I do not believe there has been clear guidance on this from HUD. Our opinion is that either of your examples would be acceptable.

  13. Sherry says:

    If we redisclose because there has been a rate lock and no settlement charges change do we still change the #2 under important dates? We do put the date 10 days out when doing the initial upfront GFE but do we change that when we redisclose?

  14. admin says:

    The original 10 days that was given to accept the GFE would be the same on all subsequent GFE’s issued.

  15. Sherry says:

    If I extend the rate lock but do not charge the borrower, do I have to re-disclose?

  16. admin says:

    It’s our opinion that you should re-disclose this to the borrower. RESPA does mention this in 3500.7 (f)(5). However, there seems to be different interpretations of if you do or do not need to do this. I would encourage to you read this section of RESPA and make a company decision based off your own interpretations.

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