We want to thank everyone who attended our webinar “GFE Compliance.” We had many excellent questions during the webinar, and we were able to answer several on air. For many questions that weren’t answered during the webinar, you can find the answers below. You can also download the slides below.

• Download the slides

Our experts look forward to serving all your compliance needs. Call 877-250-5243 or email info@mortgagecomplianceadvisors.com.


Have more questions? Submit a question or comment in the comment box at the bottom.


You can also sign up to receive invitations to our webinars and monthly compliance updates.


Question 1 – Discounts are charged in the origination charge.  What happens if you have a borrower who agreed to a discount and then changes his mind?  If you cannot change the origination charge, how can you fix this?

• Answer – If you are including the discount points in your origination charge then you are not allowed to change your origination charge. Discount points can be shown on Box 3 of Block 2 of the GFE. If discounts are listed here, you can change them as the rate changes.

Question 2 – RESPA states that box 1 and 2 in important dates do not change.  Is this true?  If not, when does it change?

• Answer – Question 1 in the Important Dates section will change when loan locking information changes. Question 2 in the Important Dates section will not change and will remain the same on all subsequent re-issues of the GFE.

Question 3 – If the seller is responsible for the transfer tax in our state, is it required to be disclosed on the GFE?

• Answer – Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 34 quesiton 2) Q: How is the transfer tax disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE?

A: The amount the borrower is likely to pay for transfer taxes is disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE. In some areas this amount, as a matter of practice, is governed by state or local laws. If state or local law is unclear or does not specifically attribute transfer tax to a seller or borrower, the amount to be disclosed on the GFE is governed by common practice or experience in the locality of the property.

If the seller is paying a portion of the transfer tax that was not disclosed on the GFE, then that portion should be listed in the seller’s column in the 1200 series on the HUD-1.


Question 4 – RE appraisal: Are you saying that if we guesstimate a $400 appraisal fee and the UW adds a requirement for, say, an additional schedule, which results in an additional cost of $100, we cannot pass on the additional fee to the borrower?

• Answer – A requirement of the lender, such as an additional appraisal requirement, could be basis for a changed circumstance allowing an increase in fees as it was information not known at the time of initial disclosure.  The re-issued GFE must be provided within 3 days of the date of discovery of the change.

Question 5 – Can you tell me a valid change circumstance for lowering a credit after a loan is locked?

• Answer – Borrower requested change would be a valid changed circumstance.  For example, if the borrower requested a lower interest rate, the credit for the chosen rate would be less and would allow a decrease to the credit in Block 2.

Question 6 – I was under the impression that if the buyer shopped for a service, a 10% tolerance did not apply?

• Answer – If the borrower shops for a service provided by a vendor who is not listed on the Service Provider List provided at initial GFE disclosure, charges for those services are not bound by tolerance.

Question 7 – For TPO loans, how do we as the lender determine if the broker disclosed within the required time frame?

• Answer – It is the lender’s responsibility to ascertain whether the GFE has been provided.  Recommend an internal procedure be established to allow disclosure requirements have been met.

Question 8 – Where do I show an escrow holdback amount for an FHA 203k loan or repair escrow funds?

• Answer – Charges for escrow holdbacks on 203K loans are typically included in the loan amount and are not a GFE item.

Question 9 - If you use a contract processor, can that fee be placed in the required services box?

• Answer – Fees for processing services are considered as part of the loan origination charge and should be placed in Block 1.

Question 10 - Is lender credit considered an APR fee?

• Answer – This would depend on what the lender credit is for. If it’s for APR related fees, then it would affect your APR.

Question 11 - How do you view rate extension cost? Should we charge the borrower or eat it?

• Answer – RESPA waivers on this. Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 18 question 7 iii) Q: The borrower does not proceed to closing quickly upon final approval or does not act diligently in providing information to the lender. A: The particular facts of each situation must be examined to determine if the facts constitute a changed circumstance.

Question 12 - Can you clarify in which GFE block you should put a processing fee charged by an independent NMLS licensed processor that gets paid directly out of the proceeds at closing by title? This would be in a lender-paid model transaction.

• Answer – Fees for processing services are considered part of the loan origination charge and should be placed in Block 1.

Question 13 - Should borrower paid short sale fees be listed on the GFE and if yes in which block?

• Answer – Without knowing the exact fees, the charges you are asking about would most likely be disclosed in Block 1.

Question 14 – Q&A # 2: How would that work in a dry state when docs have been signed? Is it a violation of RESPA to re-disclose after consummation? Or is the definition of consummation not when docs are signed?

• Answer - Consummation is defined as the date the docs are signed.  RESPA does allow for tolerance cures up to 30 days after consummation.

Question 15 – In regards to transfer taxes, if it’s typical in our area for the seller to pay it, do we have to quote it on the GFE?

• Answer – Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 34 quesiton 2) Q: How is the transfer tax disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE?

A: The amount the borrower is likely to pay for transfer taxes is disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE. In some areas this amount, as a matter of practice, is governed by state or local laws. If state or local law is unclear or does not specifically attribute transfer tax to a seller or borrower, the amount to be disclosed on the GFE is governed by common practice or experience in the locality of the property.

If the seller is paying a portion of the transfer tax that was not disclosed on the GFE, then that portion should be listed in the seller’s column in the 1200 series on the HUD-1.


Question 16 – What if the credit is based on a 1% and the loan amount is lowered, can the credit decrease?

• Answer – Please refer to RESPA FAQ [page 28 question 8] Q: If all or a portion of the charge in Block 1 is calculated as a percentage of the loan amount, and the loan amount changes, can the loan originator issue a revised GFE with an updated charge in Block 1?

A: Yes, but only if issuance of a revised GFE is permissible under 24 CFR § 3500.7(f). In particular, if the loan amount changes and all or a portion of Block 1 is calculated as a percentage of the loan amount, then that portion in Block 1 may be recalculated.


Question 17 – I have multiple borrowers that seem to sit on the disclosures – then sign when we tell them that we are about to cancel the file.  Is there any downside to having borrower signature dates 2 weeks beyond (or whatever) of the issuance of the disclosures?

• Answer – RESPA and TILA initial disclosures are not required to be signed by the borrowers. The lender/broker carries the burden to prove they were issued correctly and timely.

Question 18 – If a charge for a 10% tolerance area does not appear on the initial GFE but does appear on the initial TIL would you have a reimbursable expense?

• Answer – You are bound by tolerances and fees listed on the GFE regardless of what is listed on the TIL.

Question 19 – So, if you do not tie a lender credit to the rate and instead you list on page 3 of the 1003, it could be decreased.  Is that an acceptable way of disclosing a lender credit?

• Answer – RESPA does not issue any guidance that lender credits must be listed on the GFE. Credit for interest rate chosen must be listed.

Question 20 – Any issues with overstating fees such as Transfer Taxes to be sure you are covered?

• Answer – Overstating charges is allowed.

Question 21 – Can tax transcript costs be itemized separately or must they be included in the Origination fee?

• Answer – Tax Transcript charges are allowed to be listed in Block 3 of the GFE.

Question 22 - Borrower is locked, needs an extension– would this be a changed circumstance and allow us to reissue and charge the extension fee to the borrower?

• Answer – RESPA waivers on this. Please refer to RESPA FAQ ( page 18 question 7 iii)Q: The borrower does not proceed to closing quickly upon final approval or does not act diligently in providing information to the lender.

A: The particular facts of each situation must be examined to determine if the facts constitute a changed circumstance.


Question 23 – If we show a termite company and the charge they have for a termite inspection is 75.00. Borrower chooses to use that company and gets the inspection. The company comes back and finds visible evidence of damage or live termites. Borrower “chooses” to make contract with company for treatment, which is much higher than an inspection. Why must we be held to the 10% tolerance on this when it’s the treatment, not the inspection, that costs so much?

• Answer – I would agree with you. I would argue that the treatment is different from the inspection. I would argue that the treatment was not knowable upfront and a changed circumstance would be allowed to be issued along with an updated GFE.

Question 24 – Do you have to include a charge for a credit report in Pg 2 Block 3 if you never charge borrowers for credit reports?

• Answer- If there is a fee charged for a service provided, that fee must be disclosed on the GFE, regardless of whether the fee is paid for by the borrower, seller, or other third party.  If there is NOT a fee charged for a service, a fee will not need to be disclosed.

Question 25 - I thought HUD ruled that if state statute requires a seller to pay a transfer tax, it didn’t need to be disclosed on the GFE?  Not true?

• Answer – Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 34 question 2) Q: How is the transfer tax disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE?

A: The amount the borrower is likely to pay for transfer taxes is disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE. In some areas this amount, as a matter of practice, is governed by state or local laws. If state or local law is unclear or does not specifically attribute transfer tax to a seller or borrower, the amount to be disclosed on the GFE is governed by common practice or experience in the locality of the property.

If the seller is paying a portion of the transfer tax that was not disclosed on the GFE, then that portion should be listed in the seller’s column in the 1200 series on the HUD-1.


Question 26 – If there is a legitimate change of circumstance and some of the costs disclosed on page 2 change, is it necessary to give a new 10 day shopping period on Line 2?

• Answer – No. The date in question 2 of the important dates does not change with the re-issue of a GFE.

Question 27 - Have you seen any recall of HUD’s ruling that the cost to obtain federal income tax transcripts should be entered in Block 1?

• Answer – I have not seen this recalled.

Question 28 – If the rate is not locked at the time the initial GFE is issued, but later, when the rate is locked, neither the rate, the loan amount, the payment, nor any of the costs disclosed on page 2 have changed, is it necessary to issue a revised GFE where all that would change are dates in Important Dates?  What are the risks of not re-issuing?

• Answer – Yes. Please refer to RESPA FAQ 9 (page 8 question 19) Q: If a GFE has been provided and the interest rate has not been locked, can the loan originator provide a revised GFE when the borrower later locks the interest rate?

A: Yes, if a borrower locks the interest rate after the GFE has been issued, a revised GFE must be issued within 3 days of the interest rate lock reflecting the date that the interest rate lock is good through in Line 1 and ―N/A‖ in Line 4 of the ―Important dates‖ section of the GFE. Any interest rate-dependent charges (Block 2, Line A and Block 10 on the GFE) and terms that changed must also be updated on the revised GFE.


Question 29 – If the GFE is re-issued when the rate is locked, should the date on line 2 of the Important Dates be extended?

• Answer – No. The date in question 2 of the Important Dates does not change with the re-issue of a GFE.

Question 30 – We put the MERS fee in with the origination charge, not in services we select. Is that not correct?

• Answer – This would be acceptable.

Question 31 – If a borrower owns bare land and wants to bring in a modular home but does not have one picked out, is that a prequalification or would we have to issue a GFE and TIL along with the early disclosures?

• Answer – That would depend. If you have all 6 pieces of information that determine a GFE, then you would be required to issue a GFE.

Question 32 – What about taxes estimated on the initial GFE for the initial escrow account that go up after the initial GFE?  What is the rule concerning taxes?

• Answer – Block 9 does not have a tolerance range and this section can change if necessary.

Question 33 – If the broker orders the credit report should the service provider indicated on the HUD-1 show the broker’s name of the name of the credit reporting agency?

• Answer – It would depend on who is collecting the fee and whom title is issuing payment to.

Question 34 – If a fee or charge is POC and was underdisclosed, is it included in the tolerance?

• Answer – All fees should be included in the appropriate section of the GFE and HUD and be used in all tolerance calculations.

Question 35 – About #10: What if we don’t close the loan in the scheduled time?

• Answer – Block 10 does not have a tolerance range and this section can change if necessary.

Question 36 – If we know that the transfer tax will be paid by seller, do we need to include that fee in the GFE?

• Answer – Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 34 question 2) Q: How is the transfer tax disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE?

A: The amount the borrower is likely to pay for transfer taxes is disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE. In some areas this amount, as a matter of practice, is governed by state or local laws. If state or local law is unclear or does not specifically attribute transfer tax to a seller or borrower, the amount to be disclosed on the GFE is governed by common practice or experience in the locality of the property.

If the seller is paying a portion of the transfer tax that was not disclosed on the GFE, then that portion should be listed in the seller’s column in the 1200 series on the HUD-1.


Question 37 – If we get a app report showing lower value and we reduce the loan amounts and origination fee then, do we have to redisclose GFE?

• Answer – There are two opinions on this topic: one is that you only need to disclose if fees go up. Others say you need to re-issue if there is any change to fees or terms. We recommend to be safe and re-issue.

Question 38 – Let’s say we have a charge on the HUD that was not on the GFE that falls under the 10% tolerance in Section “Charges that in total cannot increase more than 10%.”  Can this happen?  Like a $75 Desk review of appraisal.

• Answer – This is acceptable.  Any charges over the 10% tolerance limitation (or any tolerance limitation) will result in a cost to cure.

Question 39 – What is the curative action if the GFE or revised GFE is not provided to the borrower within 3 business days of the known circumstance?

• Answer - There is no cure for this RESPA violation.

Question 40 - So are you saying that each lender can define what constitutes a loan application?  This makes it even more confusing.

• Answer – Yes. RESPA provides this option to lenders.

Question 41 – If our company provides a rate lock period, shouldn’t Line 3 in the Important Dates have the estimated number of days we normally lock our loans rather than NA when the loan is floating?

• Answer - Yes. According to Appendix C of RESPA (Completing the GFE), the loan originator must state how many days in which the borrower must go to settlement once the interest rate is locked.

Question 42 – If a loan program changes from a conventional to a FHA loan, can the fees in Block 1 also be changed?

• Answer – Your origination cannot change but all program-related fees and credits are allowed to change.

Question 43 – If a LO forgets to disclose the GFE within 3 business days of locking the loan.  They are not allowed to charge a fee, but should they re-disclose after 3 days to update the important date information?

• Answer – Yes. We would recommend you re-issue the GFE with the updated Important Dates.

Question 44 – HUD comparison, can you clarify.  If there was a nonallowable fee added to the GFE, is it ok to show the correct lower fee on the HUD comparison page to correct it OR are we required to show the higher amount?  It seems this would be wrong to include it as it would skew our 10% tolerance category for the over calculation.

• Answer – The GFE comparison column on the HUD should contain the information from the most recently disclosed GFE disclosure.  Your tolerances would be determined based on these figures.

Question 45 – Page 2 #10 settlement date, is this supposed to be the actual date the loan is funded or the date docs are signed?

• Answer – That would be the day the documents are signed.

Question 46 – Where do I show an escrow waiver fee?

• Answer – FAQ 4/02/10 PG 31 #8- This fee may be part of Block 2 on the GFE. However, if known at time of application, the escrow waiver may be included in Block 1.

Question 47 – We have a silent 2nd mortgage given by City Government and they have a processing fee of $150.  Where does that charge go on the GFE?

• Answer – Fees for processing services are considered a part of the loan origination charge and should be placed in Block 1.

Question 48 – Transfer taxes – Block 8 – should we disclose the borrower portion or the total amount regardless if the seller is required to pay half in our state?

• Answer – Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 34 quesiton 2) Q: How is the transfer tax disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE?

A: The amount the borrower is likely to pay for transfer taxes is disclosed in Block 8 of the GFE. In some areas this amount, as a matter of practice, is governed by state or local laws. If state or local law is unclear or does not specifically attribute transfer tax to a seller or borrower, the amount to be disclosed on the GFE is governed by common practice or experience in the locality of the property.

If the seller is paying a portion of the transfer tax that was not disclosed on the GFE, then that portion should be listed in the seller’s column in the 1200 series on the HUD-1.


Question 49 – If closing attorney fees, title insurance fees were disclosed with our closing attorneys  fees but borrower decided to go with the attorney of their choice and their fees are higher, can we redisclose a new GFE?

• Answer – You may re-disclose and support the changed circumstance as a borrower requested change.  If a re-disclosed GFE is not provided and the fees increase at settlement, a cost to cure should not apply since these are service charges not bound by tolerance because the borrower shopped for their own vendor.

Question 50 – OCC has notified us that the revised GFE can only change items that were impacted by the changed circumstance. For instance, at locking of loan, only the origination charge and daily interest (if applicable) can change.  If other items, such as appraisal fee, have changed it cannot be changed on the revised GFE.

• Answer – This is correct. Only fees directly affected by the change of circumstances can change. Please refer to RESPA FAQ (page 18 question 5) Q: If circumstances change, may a loan originator issue a revised GFE with changes to all of the charges and terms related to the loan?

A: No, the loan originator may only change those charges and terms that are affected by the specific changed circumstance.


Question 51 - Is there a requirement that a minimum # of days interest be shown on the GFE?

• Answer – RESPA does not give a minimum number of days interest that must be disclosed.

Question 52 – If the GFE has expired, can the fees disclosed in Block 1 increase in a subsequent GFE?

• Answer – If the borrower does not receive a GFE and give an intent to proceed within a minimum 10 days, then you are not bound by any of the fees listed on the GFE. However, if the borrower received a GFE and expresses an intent to proceed before the minimum 10 days, you are bound by all fees listed on the GFE.

Question 53 – Is monthly income, for GFE purposes, defined as verified income by documentation or as stated by borrower during interview?

• Answer – RESPA does not allow a GFE to not be issued due to non-verification of income. You would need to issue the GFE based on the income stated by the borrower. Possible change of circumstances could be issued if income verified was not the same as the stated amount.

Question 54 – Will this training include the “how to” on completing the GFE for RESPA as it applies to the Federal Reserve Board’s MLO compensation Rules?

• Answer – Please refer to the March 2011 Issue of RESPA Roundup. This will give guidance on this topic.

Question 55 – Page 1 line 2 date estimated charges are good through. GFE has been accepted. Changed circumstance GFE is issued-do we change that date to 10 days from the new GFE?

• Answer – No. The initial date in question 2 will not change on subsequent GFE’s.

Question 56 – Do 203K fees like the Supplemental Origination fee, Inspection fee, Title Update need to be disclosed on the GFE and if yes, are they noted POC (paid outside closing)?

• Answer – If these fees are included in the loan amount, they will not show on the GFE.

Question 57 – If a borrower agrees to move forward with the loan AND both dates expire (#1 & #2), does the GFE expire?  Or are you still bound by the fees even though the dates have expired?

• Answer – If the borrower does not receive a GFE and give an intent to proceed within a minimum 10 days, then you are not bound by any of the fees listed on the GFE. However, if the borrower received a GFE and expresses an intent to proceed before the minimum 10 days has expired you are bound by the fees listed on the GFE.

Question 58 – Can we stamp the GFE “Amended” or “Final”?

• Answer – RESPA does not allow the GFE to be altered. We would recommend an additional letter to disclosure to the borrower indicating why a new GFE is being issued.

Question 59 – Is the NMLS id number for lender and originator required on the GFE?

• Answer – RESPA does not require the NMLS ID number to be listed on the GFE. However, there are certain states that do require this.

Question 60 – Can the appraisal fee be added if never disclosed?

• Answer – The appraisal is a fee is considered a fee that should be known prior to issuing a GFE and is not allowed to be charged to the borrower if it’s not listed on the initial GFE.

Question 61 – Owner’s title was never disclosed, can you add it at any time or must you wait for discovery?

• Answer - “RESPA FAQ (page 33 question 1) states the following:

Q: Do loan originators have to provide a price for Owner‘s title insurance on the GFE?

A: Loan originators must provide an estimate of the charge for an Owner‘s title insurance policy in Block 5, ―Owner‘s title insurance‖ on the GFE on all purchase transactions. For non-purchase transactions, the loan originator may enter ―NA‖ or ―Not Applicable‖ in this Block. If the Owners Title Insurance is not listed on the GFE you would not be allowed to charge the borrower for this. ”


Question 62 – Where would you enter charges for permits for a FHA 203K?

• Answer - Charges for these permits are typically included in the loan amount and are not a GFE item.

Question 63 – On a re-issued GFE, what would the date be for #2 in Important Dates, stays the same as original, or changed to new 10 day period?

• Answer – It would remain the same as the date on the original GFE.

Question 64 – Are we able to utilize your slides for internal training purposes?

• Answer – Yes. These slides are available for free download on our website.

Mortgage Compliance Advisors offers webinars every month. Visit www.MortgageComplianceAdvisors.com to register for next month’s webinar or to learn more about how MCA can serve all your compliance needs.


(Mortgage Compliance Advisors, LLC (MCA) makes reasonable efforts to ensure the accuracy of the answers. MCA makes no express or implied warranty of any kind respecting the information presented and assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions. This online chat is not legal advice and should not be used as a substitute for proper professional or legal advice.)

Jun 2 – Sign up for our next free webinar “GFE Compliance” on June 16 at 1:00 pm MDT (3:00 Eastern). Register here

We want to thank everyone who attended our webinar “Revisiting the GFE: How to Resolve Common Findings.” (This is the third GFE webinar in a series. You can find the slides and Q&A from the previous GFE webinars under the News & Resources tab.) As promised, below you will find answers to the questions asked during the webinar. You can also download the slides from the webinar.


Our experts look forward to serving all your compliance needs. Call 877-250-5243 or email info@mortgagecomplianceadvisors.com.


Have more questions? Submit a question or comment in the comment box at the bottom.


QC Audits | QC Plans | Training & Consulting | TPO Management | Agency Approval | Red Flag Policies | Tax Transcripts & Social Security Verifications


Question 1 – On purchase transactions, since the seller chooses the title company, are title charges still held to that 10% tolerance?

• Answer – Yes.  Fees disclosed in Blocks #4 or #5 are bound by 10% tolerance. If a settlement service provider list is provided to the borrower at the time of initial GFE disclosure, and the borrower chooses a settlement agent not disclosed on the service provider list, the actual charges at settlement may be listed under Fees That Can Change.

Question 2 – Regarding Important Date #1: Does a new GFE need to be issued when a rate lock is extended?

• Answer – A new GFE will need to be issued with the Important Dates Section updated to reflect correct lock information.

Question 3 – Is a credit report provider required to be on the settlement service list? If yes, what if you don’t charge your borrower a credit report fee ever? Do you still have to list a company on your list?

• Answer – A settlement service provider list must be provided for any service the borrower may shop for. If the borrower is allowed to shop for a credit report provider, the list must be provided. If you do not ever charge a credit report, you are not required to show the credit report, or company, on the provider list.

Question 4 – Can origination ever change due to a changed circumstance?

• Answer – Yes. HUD FAQ’s state that if the loan amount increases, and all, or a portion of, charges listed in Block 1 are disclosed as a percentage of the loan amount, those charges may increase.  The GFE must be re-issued within three business days of the discovery of information, allowing the increase in charges.  A supporting changed circumstance must also be documented and retained in the file.

Question 5 – Initial GFE went out with zero origination because the loan was priced with a rebate for a no cost loan to the borrower. The appraisal came in low which now reduces the amount of rebate. Does this qualify as a changed circumstance and could a new GFE be issued showing a discount cost?

• Answer – A lower than estimated appraisal does not constitute a changed circumstance. Therefore, you are only allowed to collect the origination disclosed to the on the initial GFE.

Question 6 – What if the GFE is disclosed improperly? Is there a cure? Should the file be closed?

• Answer – This depends on the violation. If it’s a fee violation with a tolerance, then you may be able to cure this on the final HUD1.  Some GFE violations cannot be cured, and you should check with your investor to see how they will want you to address these situations.

Question 7 - Regarding Important Date #2: Does this date need to be equal to the rate lock expiration if the rate is locked at the time of GFE issuance?

• Answer – Question #2 is to document how long the charges listed on the GFE are available for.   The initial GFE must reflect a minimum of 10 business days from the date of the GFE. This date will not need to equal the rate lock dates.

Question 8 – Can you use a credit of a flat dollar in Block 2?

• Answer – Yes, you can. However, if crediting YSP, it should be equal to the amount of premium being paid by the lender.

Question 9 - Then your credit to the borrower can always be changed?

• Answer – Credit to the borrower can only change when a legitimate changed circumstance occurs (such as locking the loan).  A revised GFE must be issued within three business days of the discovery of information sufficient to support a changed circumstance.

Question 10 – For an FHA loan – if the UPFRONT MIP is underdisclosed–then does the Broker/Borrower have to pay for–i.e. cannot be cured?

• Answer – This cannot be cured and the lender would need to make up the difference. The UFMIP would be a charge that should have been known at the time of initial disclosure of the GFE.   Incorrect disclosure is not a changed circumstance as defined by HUD.  UFMIP should be placed in block 3 and therefore subject to a 10% tolerance. You would be responsible for any amount above the 10% tolerance.

Question 11 – Can you talk about retail as it pertains to YSP?

• Answer – In the case of a retail transaction, the credit or charge for the interest rate chosen may be included in Block 1 as part of Our Origination Charge. Box 1 in Block 2 must be marked reflecting the rate.

Question 12 – Can this be a changed circumstance if you are not aware at time of initial disclosure (in regards to the roof certs)?

• Answer – If there is an unforeseen charge that occurs as part of the loan process, then this is an allowable changed circumstance. If you were unaware a roof inspection would be needed, you can issue a changed circumstance and disclose only the new fee associated with the roof inspection. Re-issue must be done within three business days from the discovery of the information.

Question 13 – What about short sale fees…mostly on the pc?

• Answer – If the fees are listed on the purchase contract that the borrower will be required to pay, these should be listed on the GFE. If by the time of closing these fees are no longer applicable, then you do not have to disclose these on the HUD1. If the fees were discovered late in the process, this would be considered a changed circumstance and a new GFE would need to be disclosed.

Question 14 – We have seen where the borrower is going to pay for some of the sellers costs.

• Answer – If these fees will be financed into the loan, they are required to be disclosed on the GFE. If the charges are outside the loan, they are not required to be disclosed on the GFE.

Question 15 – Would a GFE be re-issued when the loan amount changes…up or down?

• Answer – If the loan amount changes and the charges increase beyond allowable tolerance levels, a new GFE reflecting the charges is required to be re-issued along with documentation supporting an acceptable changed circumstance.  The GFE and supporting documentation, along with any previously disclosed GFE’s, will need to be retained in the file.

Question 16 – Can you provide examples of page 44 #3? (New information particular to borrower or transaction that was not relied on in providing GFE)

• Answer – Information unknown at the time of the initial GFE disclosure, i.e., inspection, flood insurance or borrower requested change which would affect loan attributes.

Question 17 – If the loan amount increases but no adjustments are made to the fees initially disclosed on the GFE, are we still required to redisclose?

• Answer – Our opinion is that you would not need to redisclose unless the fees are affected. However, we suggest reviewing this with your investor to be sure you are following their policies.

Question 18 – A VOD or VOE is not something you can shop for– it’s a Change in Circumstance.

• Answer – HUD recently posted their position on this in FAQ’s 4/02/10. If the charge for these items is known at the time of origination, these fees are to be placed in Block 3 which is subject to 10% variation.  The charges referenced are those charged by the 3rd party for services provided.

Question 19 – UPMIP does not have a 10% tolerance either.

• Answer – HUD instructs charges for UFMIP be placed in Block 3. Charges listed in Block 3 are subject to a 10% tolerance variation.

Question 20 – Who issues the revised GFE on a wholesale brokered loan? The broker or wholesaler?

• Answer – Both are allowed to re-disclose the GFE. Redisclosure must be done within three business days of the discovery of information resulting in a change to fees. RESPA strongly encourages timely communication between the lender and broker.

Question 21 – On a brokered loan – if floating at the time of issuance on GFE – you know there will be a rebate but not exact amount is known – do you not disclose the rebate in box 2 but include in box 1 and then re-disclose at lock with exact rebate?

• Answer – This would be allowable as long as you redisclose correctly when the loan is locked.  Charges in Block 1 may not increase as a result of YSP, however, credit for the YSP in Block 2 may increase.

Question 22 – What section should tax prorates to a county by a purchaser go (property taxes)?

• Answer – Taxes associated with the transfer of the property (Transfer taxes) should be placed in Block 8.

Question 23 – On an FHA purchase – if at closing there is a lump sum credit – what would be the correct way to disclose the TIL so we have a correct APR?

• Answer – We would recommend using a loan fee worksheet to itemize a lump sum credit to break out and determine what fees will be credited. This will allow you to place the correct credited fees into the APR calculation.

Question 24 – Can a charge for tax transcripts and automated compliance review be included in box 3?

• Answer – Yes, you could include these charges in section 3.

Question 25 – If a genuine error is made on the GFE, can you redisclose within three days of the issuing of the initial GFE?

• Answer – If correction to an error results in an increase of fees beyond allowable tolerance levels, an acceptable changed circumstance must be documented allowing the increase in fees.  Typically, error on the part of disclosure of fees is not an acceptable changed circumstance which would allow an increase in fees subject to tolerance.

Question 26 – It is my understanding that retail originators have a choice of how they disclose a credit or discount and that it is not mandatory to include in the origination fee. Is that correct? Is it mandatory for the Settlement Service Provider List to have a signature line?

• Answer – All originators, regardless of sales channel, are held to the same rules in regards to disclosing the GFE. All credits must be listed in Block 2 Box 2 and all discounts in Block 2 Box 3. Please note: You cannot have both a credit and a discount on the same transaction. You are also allowed to show the discount or premium in your origination charge or show no origination at all.

Question 27 – Subordination fee or Trust Review fee – Are they part of Administrative fees for lender?

• Answer – Yes. These can be administrative fees by the lender.

Question 28 - Do we need to disclose all 3rd party fees, such as Credit Report or Flood Cert, even if the Lender is paying for them?

• Answer – Yes.  All fees associated with the closing of the loan, whether paid for by the seller, buyer, or other third party, should be disclosed on the GFE.

Question 29 – If the appraisal is quoted at $450 but then that fee is only $350, but there is an inspection fee for $100 for a total of $450, should that be re-disclosed as 2 fees or can the total appraisal fee?

• Answer – HUD does not provide specific direction on this type of scenario.  If there are two separate invoices for two services performed, you may be required to disclose the items separately.  The decrease in charges for the appraisal would not require re-disclosure of the GFE.  If the addition of the inspection fee increases charges above allowable tolerance levels, a GFE will need to be reissued and documentation supporting the changed circumstance will need to be retained in the file.

Question 30 – If there is no credit disclosed on the GFE, but at closing the lender decides to give a credit to the buyer’s fees, would that require a new GFE?

• Answer – A redisclosed GFE would only be needed if the fees increase above the allowed tolerances and a changed circumstance is documented.

Question 31 – If the appraisal fee is shown as $750 on the GFE and the appraisal costs $450, but then an inspection is required that costs $100, should the GFE be redisclosed with 2 fees or can the inspection fee be considered part of the $750 appraisal fee previously disclosed?

• Answer – HUD does not provide specific direction on this type of scenario. If there are two separate invoices for two services performed, you may be required to disclose the items separately. The decrease in charges for the appraisal would not require re-disclosure of the GFE.  If the addition of the inspection fee increases charges above allowable tolerance levels, a GFE will need to be reissued and documentation supporting the changed circumstance will need to be retained in the file.

Question 32 – If the borrower signs and dates the TIL that accompanies the GFE, could that signature and date be used to document disclosure to the borrower within the 3 days?  Or, does the borrower have to acknowledge receipt of the GFE separately?

• Answer – The signed and dated TIL does not document provision/receipt of the GFE disclosure within three business days of application.  A separate acknowledgement will have to be provided.

Question 33 – So does “recalculate” mean that if the loan amount increases then the origination fee can increase if it was disclosed as a percentage?

• Answer – If all, or a portion of, the Origination Charge disclosed in Block 1 was calculated as a percentage of the loan amount, and the loan amount increases, those charges may also increase. Please note: Your standard consistent company policy would need to reflect you charge origination as a percentage.

Question 34 – So you can reissue a GFE if settlement fees change? I thought they had to remain the same and could only increase 10%?

• Answer – A GFE must be re-issued if there is an increase in fees outside of allowable tolerances, but an acceptable and documented changed circumstance must be established supporting the increase in fees. You can also issue a new GFE if the customer does not accept the GFE within 10 business days.

Question 35 - If a lender (not a broker) shows an SRP on the Settlement Statement, is this considered a RESPA violation, since, technically, a lender does not have to disclose the SRP?

• Answer – This would not be a violation of RESPA.  SRP is typically not disclosed on a HUD settlement statement.

Have more questions? Submit a question or comment in the box below.

Mortgage Compliance Advisors offers a free webinar every month. Visit www.MortgageComplianceAdvisors.com to register for next month’s webinar or to learn more about how MCA can serve all your compliance needs.

(Mortgage Compliance Advisors, LLC (MCA) makes reasonable efforts to ensure the accuracy of the answers. MCA makes no express or implied warranty of any kind respecting the information presented and assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions. This online chat is not legal advice and should not be used as a substitute for proper professional or legal advice.)

To add to the questions from February’s webinar, we received many excellent and challenging questions during our March webinar “Continuing to Make Sense of the New GFE: A More in Depth Look.” As promised, below you will find answers to all 32 of the questions asked. The answers come from our best available resources, and we will all continue to learn more as HUD posts new information. Reviewing findings from your quality control audits is also a good way to learn how to meet RESPA requirements.

Have more questions? Submit a question or comment in the comment box at the bottom.


(This is the second in a series of GFE webinars. You can find more GFE questions and answers from our webinars on the News & Resources tab.  To receive notifications of our free monthly webinars, sign up for our free Monthly Compliance Update.)


Question 1 – On the 2010 GFE – if a borrower gave an incorrect house number on a purchase, do we need to re-disclose as a changed circumstance?

• Answer - Assuming fees will remain the same, you should be fine to update your disclosures with the correct address.  If you were attempting to increase fees and trying to use the change in house # as a documented changed circumstance, the change in house number alone would not constitute a changed circumstance allowing the increase in fees.  If the legal address of the property changes, however,  this may constitute a changed circumstance and we recommend contacting your lender to determine their procedure.

Question 2 – Can a separate line item be added for lock extension fee?

• Answer - Additional lines may only be added to Blocks 3, 6, 11 of the GFE.

Question 3 – Borrower is in the process of purchase loan and decided to purchase a different home – Is this a changed circumstance or new transaction and start with new application and RESPA?

• Answer - A change in properties can be viewed to fit into the following definitions of allowable changed circumstance (1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s pg. 15 #1):  A, 2) information particular to the borrower or transaction that was relied on in providing the GFE and that changes, or is found to be inaccurate after the GFE has been provided and 3) New information particular to the borrower or transaction that was not relied on in providing the GFE.  Change in legal address also constitutes a changed circumstance.  The originator is still bound by the dates of the initial GFE, however, we suggest contacting your lender to determine what is acceptable to them.

Question 4 - How do you disclose the loan origination is a % and not a flat fee so if the loan increases our origination could increase?

• Answer - We recommend contacting your lender or LOS provider for recommendations on this type of fee disclosure.   The lender/investor may have procedures used to determine a specific fee (such as an origination fee), has been disclosed as a percentage rather than a dollar amount, thus allowing the percentage to increase with the loan amount.

Question 5 - What is your understanding of the Intent to Proceed form? Is it needed prior to processing the loan?

• Answer – The letter of intent to proceeds verifies the borrower’s interest to move forward with the loan within the 10 business days as disclosed on the Important Dates Section page 1 of the GFE.  Without a signature line available as part of the 2010 GFE, the Intent to Proceed document may be used to verify the GFE was provided within 3 business days of application.

Question 6 – What about removal of an applicant from the application? Is that a changed circumstance?

• Answer - This may be considered a changed circumstance due to the following:  borrower requested change, information relied on when initially disclosing the GFE has changed, or found to be inaccurate (such as credit quality), or New information  particular to the borrower or transaction that was not relied on in providing the GFE was discovered.

Question 7 – Should we do another 1003 when the borrower finds the property so the dates will be within the 3 day period?

• Answer - At the time the application is provided, it is presumed all 6 pieces of information required have been obtained and the initial GFE must be disclosed within 3 days of receiving that information.  Requirements include the following:  borrower’s name, monthly income, SSN, property address, estimate of value of the property and loan amount.   See 1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page6 #4.

Question 8 – Why did you not include the YSP in the total origination charges in the examples?

• Answer – Charges listed in Block 1 may be itemized on a worksheet (YSP, Origination fee, processing, etc.). The origination charge we used as one figure could encompass both YSP and an origination fee.  Since these fees are ‘lumped’ together into one charge, the fee split can be done any number of ways as long as Our Origination Charge is high enough to allow reduction for the entire credit of any YSP reflected in Block 2.

Question 9 - Please repeat number 3. If unlocked this should read N/A…. Is that correct?

• Answer – Page 1 Important dates Section; item number 3 will remain N/A when unlocked and will be completed with the appropriate rate lock period, allowing for any rescission period, when the loan is locked.

Question 10 - Hello, our brokers are responsible for redisclosing at the time of our rate lock. How can we confirm that the GFE has been in fact received by the borrowers?

• Answer - When the GFE is re-issued for rate lock purposes, the Date of the GFE will need to be updated.  For purposes of documenting the disclosure was sent to the borrower, the procedure you typically use (date stamp, email confirmation disclosing a date, etc.) is acceptable.

Question 11 – What if the origination % stays the same yet the loan amount changes, therefore the amount will change?

• Answer – If a portion of the origination charge is a percentage of the loan amount, and the loan amount increases, that portion of the origination charge disclosed as a percentage of the loan amount may also increase.  A documented changed circumstance permitting the increase must be retained in the file.

Question 12 – Does a change circumstances require a new TIL in addition to the new GFE?

• Answer – A new TIL must be redisclosed if the APR increases above .125%.  Evidence of redisclosure of the TIL must be retained in the file.

Question 13 – If one lender will not do the loan for some reason, so it has to go to another lender and the new lenders fees are higher, why can’t I reissue?

• Answer – 1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page 18 #xv indicates a change in lender’s does not constitute a changed circumstance.  One of our panelist’s addressed this issue indicating although the fees may increase from lender to lender, those fees are considered the cost of ‘doing business’ and may not be passed on to the borrower.  This is assuming that the reason for a change in lender is not due to a borrower requested change, change in loan product, etc. which may fall under the category of an acceptable changed circumstance.

Question 14 – As per HUD, YSP should not be added to origination charges.

• Answer – YSP can be considered as a component of Our Adjusted Origination Charge in Block 1 if the originator wishes to itemize charges, for example, on a worksheet.  The originator may include YSP as part of the origination charge, however, may not retain any portion of the YSP as the entire credit will go towards reducing settlement charges for the borrower.

Question 15 – If block 1 cannot go up or down, what happens when the origination charges are exceeding section 32?

• Answer – The fees disclosed in Block 1 may decrease at settlement.  Tolerance limitations only apply to increase in charges to the borrower, or decrease in credit to the borrower.

Question 16 ­- The redisclose is only if there is an increase in the origination and not a decrease, correct?

• Answer – Correct, charges to the borrower may decrease at any time.  A credit to the borrower indicated in Block 2, however, may not decrease without a documented changed circumstance.

Question 17 – If we are a direct lender, funding our own loans, do we need to show YSP?

• Answer – For transactions without a mortgage broker, the lender may choose not to separately disclose in Block 2 any credit, or charge, for the interest rate chose on the loan.   Box 1 of Block 2 will, however, need to be marked with the chosen interest rate.  See Sec. appendix C to Part 3500- Instruction for Completing the Good Faith Estimate.

Question 18 – Do you know what form in Encompass would work on TBD?

• Answer – We suggest contacting your LOS support provider for questions specific to its operation.

Question 19 – Delaying the GFE means Section 7 of the 1003 and the GFE won’t agree; advice on how to handle this? (Section 7 is the details of transaction.)

• Answer – Unsure of what the reason for a delayed GFE disclosure would be?  An originator is required to disclose the GFE no later than 3 business days after receipt of an application, or information sufficient to complete an application (1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page 6 #4).  We have seen several LOS providers advise on ways to input fees to allow an accurate dollar amount disclosure to the borrower and can recommend contacting your provider for support.  You are also welcome to contact us directly to provide more detail in allowing us to answer your question more accurately.

Question 20 – I have several investors who say that if the borrower opts to use a different title company than on the service provider list we are still on the hook for tolerance requirements. Is this correct?

• Answer – We are unsure as to why your lender would hold these fees to a tolerance limitation.  1/28/10 RESPA FAQ’s page 13 #3 addresses this question specifically.

Question 21 – So if the appraisal comes in lower and decreases the YSP, the credit in block 2 decreases but the fees in block 1 do not?

• Answer – That is correct.  The decrease in YSP due to the higher LTV will reduce the credit the borrower has towards settlement charges as reflected in Block 2.

Question 22 – Actually, the issue I’ve encountered is not having a credit bureau because I didn’t yet have an authorization to pull credit; you answered it for me by reaffirming that without all 6 items it’s a huge financial risk providing a GFE.

• Answer – Happy to hear we were able to be of assistance.

Question 23 – Different investors of mine have tossed out Saturdays as a business day.

• Answer – (3500.7(c) RESPA defines a business day as follows:  3500.2, business day means a day on which the offices of the business entity are open to the public for carrying on substantially all of the entity’s business functions.   This would allow Saturdays to be counted as a business day.

Question 24 – If there is a time listed in box #1 does that mean the rate is good thorough that time?  Any time after the date and time the rate could change correct?

• Answer – That is correct.  The quoted interest rate must be made available for the date and time indicated in   item #1 in the Important Dates section located on page 1 of the GFE.

Question 25 – Do we adjust the rate lock period by the rescission time?

• Answer – Yes, the rate lock period should include any applicable rescission period.

Question 26 – The lender sends out the revised GFE to the borrower…should we be receiving a copy to be retained in our file? The lenders are not wanting to send us copies.

• Answer – Any re-issued GFE and supporting documentation must be retained in the originator’s file.   HUD FAQ’s page 19, #12 specifically addresses this question:  “If there is a changed circumstance resulting in a revised GFE, loan originators (mortgage brokers and lenders) both must retain documentation of the reasons for providing the revised GFE for no less than 3 years after settlement”.

Question 27 – Does the lender or the broker generate the re-disclosed GFE? Do we need to have the copy of the redisclosure sent and the date to be sure we can charge at closing?

• Answer – Any re-issued GFE and supporting documentation must be retained in the originator’s file.   HUD FAQ’s page 19, #12 specifically addresses this question:  “If there is a changed circumstance resulting in a revised GFE, loan originators (mortgage brokers and lenders) both must retain documentation of the reasons for providing the revised GFE for no less than 3 years after settlement”.

Question 28 – For a refinance, do we make the rate good thru the closing date or the funding date?

• Answer – The interest rate and date quoted in the Important Dates Section, once the loan is locked, should be made available through funding, allowing for any applicable rescission.

Question 29 – Lenders don’t use Box 2 under Number 2 at all – correct?

• Answer – One of the boxes in Block 2 must be marked.  For example, if SRP applies (vs. YSP), box 1of Block 2 should be marked with only the interest rate.  If there is a YSP to the borrower, box 2 will be marked and if there is a charge, or discount, to the borrower for the interest rate chosen, box 3 will be marked.  Only one of the boxes in Block 2 may be marked.

Question 30 – So the YSP credit or charge is to the borrower? For the broker to retain compensation/get paid on YSP, it has to be included in block 1?

• Answer – That is correct.  Also, the YSP included in Block 1 may not exceed the YSP credit to the borrower in block 2.  100% of YSP will go to the borrower as a credit on the settlement statement.

Question 31 – What if the broker is keeping the YSP? Then do you show YSP in 2 block 1?

• Answer – 100% of YSP received for a chosen rate will always be shown in Block 2 as a credit to the borrower, reducing settlement charges.   Our Adjusted Origination Charges in Block 1 may contain YSP, however, the YSP included in Block 1 may not exceed the YSP credit in Block 2.

Question 32 - I thought I heard Connie say that the amount of “additional broker compensation” added to the origination and fees in Block 1 could never exceed the amount of the YSP credit to the borrower. I have never heard that before. Do you know where that information came from?

• Answer – I believe Connie made the following clarification regarding YSP:- If part of Our Origination Charges in Block 1 is comprised of YSP (additional broker compensation) and the YSP increases, the YSP credit may increase in Block 2, however, Block 1 may not increase due to the increased YSP.  By increasing only Block 2, the borrower now can realize the full benefit of the increase in YSP.

ALWAYS check with your lenders and investors if you have any questions specific to your loan scenario. The information provided by Mortgage Compliance Advisors, LLC has been taken from various public resources and does not constitute legal advice.